MaryAnn M. Butterfield email@example.com
Subject: F-86 Pilot - In Korea - Dayton W. Ragland
With the permission and assistance of his widow, Nettye Ann Ragland,
I am writing the biography of Colonel Dayton W. Ragland, USAF. I
am hoping that a message on your web site might reach pilots who
flew the F-86 with him in pilot training; in Korea; or with him
in Camp 2, Korea, as a POW; or participated with him in the 1952
Pyuktong D.P.R.K. POW Olympics. Perhaps someone can identify the
others in this photo or the event?
(Captain Ragland is in the front row, on the right-can anyone identify
A brief overview of the period I need:
1951, as a 1st Lt, Dayton William Ragland, USAF, was assigned to
the 336FIS and flew the F-86 in Korea;
November 18, 1951, he destroyed four Russian MIGS on the ground,
at Uiju Air Base;
November 28, 1951, he shot down a Russian MIG during aerial combat;
seconds later, his aircraft was hit by Russian pilot Yevgeni Pepelyayev,
who writes about this mission in, A Red Predator Over 'MiG Alley';
November 28, 1951, Dayton Ragland bailed out and became a POW;
September 1953, the POWs were repatriated;
A brief overview of his career after Korea:
Dayton Ragland continued his career in the USAF; he was stationed
at O'Hare AFB, married, had a child, and was an ROTC Instructor
at Howard University, Washington DC, prior to completing F-4C training.
Assigned to Ubon, he had completed 97 missions over Viet Nam, and
was packed and ready to return home, when Dayton flew as a "back-seater"
to 1st Lt. Ned R. Herrold on a diversionary mission south of the
Dragon's Jaw (the Ham Rong Bridge), to allow slow-moving C-130s
time to drop bombs on the Dragon's Jaw. This would give the younger
man more combat flight time, while Dayton operated the sophisticated
technical navigational and bombing equipment. * On May 31, 1966,
the Herrold-Ragland aircraft was making the diversionary attack
when other crew members saw it was hit by anti-aircraft fire. On
the Herrold-Ragland final pass, the aircraft did not pull up, but
went out to sea. They reported that they had taken heavy weapon
fire. A ball of fire was seen as the plane went into the sea, and
searches revealed no sign of survivors. The pilots were listed as
MIA until 1970, when they were declared KIA.
Mrs. Ragland has provided information about Dayton Ragland's life,
from their meeting and marrying, until he was MIA. However, Dayton
did not discuss his prior experiences in the F-86, as a POW, etc.,
with her. He was a quiet, thoughtful person, a true patriot, and
wasn't one to boast. However, his achievements are well above the
norm, and his story needs to be told. I hope it will inspire young
Is there anyone who can help me discover this information about
him or help me search in another direction? I already have made
requests to USAF Personnel (and received a minimum of information),
Lincoln University MO, the Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, The Black
Archives of Mid-America, The POW network, and via Ancestry.com,
have traced his ancestry back three generations. The missing segment
is KOREA. I can be contacted at:
Telephone: (310) 701-7144
7912 Madison Plantation Way
Fredericksburg, Virginia 22407
I have more photos, if this would be help. Thank you in advance
for any assistance you can provide.
MaryAnn Milton Butterfield
p.s. My husband (Robert L. Butterfield) flew the F-86 after the
Korean War, and the B-57 and F-4 in Vietnam. At present he is president
of the 13th Bomb Squadron Asso.
Subject:Archival gun camera footage.
Date:November 27, 2011
Hi, I have been trying to contact someone at the Nat'l archives
/ Air force. But even with emails, and snail mail. I have not gotten
any response at all. I am trying to get copies of various gun camera
footage from the korean war.
If anyone knows of someone that can do this for me. Please let me
know. Thank you.
Date:November 26, 2011
Earlier this month I attended a ceremony at the MAPS museum in Akron,
Ohio. The occasion was the dedication of an F86D to the museum.
The aircraft was painted with the 496th FIS colors and the pilots
name put on the aircraft was J B Lang, a 496th pilot who was killed
in Germany. The whole story from finding the aircraft and following
it thru refurbishment to the dedication can be totally explained
to you by Mac McFarland at 330-958-7208. The dedication was on 11-11-11.
And, yes, I was a member of the 496th.
Hope you can do something with this.
Charles M. Coppedge III
Subject:General Momyer Recollections
Date:November 25, 2011
My name is Case Cunningham and I am in the process of writing a
biography on General William Momyer. General Momyer flew the F-86
during his time in command of the 8th Fighter-Bomber Wing, the 314th
Air Division, and the 312th Fighter-Bomber Wing. If anyone has any
stories and recollections that could bring this period of General
Momyer's career to life, I'd greatly appreciate it if you emailed
them to me at firstname.lastname@example.org. Thanks in advance for any
Sent from my iPad
Wayne Graefen email@example.com
Subject:Lt. Col Bruce Hinton's custom car
Date:November 25, 2011 4:09:23 PM EST
In the April 28th, 1953 The Stars and Stripes, p.8, Lt. Col. Bruce
Hinton, historical Sabre pilot is mentioned in an article as owning
the most photographed object at Rhine Main at the time. The object
was his car, a '48 model which he had contracted customized by the
coachbuilding firm of Carosserie Spohn in Ravensburg, Germany.
I also own a Spohn custom car and am wondering if there are any
of those many photos of the Hinton Spohn at Ravensburg that still
exists. Spohn customs were known for their Sabre statement tail
fins and my car has that feature and I suspect so did Col Hinton's.
Would be happy to have anyone contact me in this regard.
Subject:F-86 Intercepts UFO
Date:September 25, 2011
Chapter One of Edward J. Ruppelt's classic UFO expos? The Report On
Unidentified Flying Objects opens with, "In the summer of 1952 a United
States Air Force F-86 jet interceptor shot at a flying saucer." The
report goes on to say that the pilot opened fire with his guns.
I know the F-86H had guns, but it seems that it wasn't produced until
1953 ... so were there any F-86s with guns in operation during the
summer of 1952? Any references? Are there any F-86 pilots in your
group who are aware of this story or who have seen UFOs?
Thanks in advance ...
USI Calgary ( www.ufopages.com ) From:Randy Davis firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date:September 24, 2011
I used to live in Sacramento Ca. just a few miles from McClellan
Air Force Base. I found a helmet with oxygen mask in our back pasture.
It had not been there previously, this was in about 1958-59. I have
had it all these years and have kept it as safe as I could. The
face mask has since been lost. The helmet has the pics "painted"
of the seven seas ladies with the name "Atomic Whirler" I have tried
many times to find out who the owner was but have been unable to
do so. I would appreciate any help you could give. I presently live
way up north in Ca.
Date: September 25, 2011
My dad flew an F86D during the Korean war. His last assignment was
with the 515th Air Defense Group; Duluth, Minn.
He was 1st lt. Clarence Arthur Stephenson. He died when his F86-D
crashed into a gravel _pit at the end of the E/W runway on Dec. 12th
I'm trying to find any records relating to this
Sandy Few email@example.com>
Date: August 13, 2011
I recently came across an article on the web regarding the ADC rocketry
meets in Yuma, AZ during the 1950?s. Marty Isham was credited as
having a vast knowledge of the operations of the ADC. I am very
interested in contacting him. I believe my father, Capt. M.H. Castleberry,
was a member of the F-94C Starfire team from the EADF 26th AD at
all the meets held in Yuma during 1954 and 1955, and I am hoping
Mr. Isham has a roster of the pilots of each team to confirm this.
Because Dad performed admirably at these meets, he asked for and
received a tour of duty in England on a pilots? exchange program
with the RAF.
Does anyone know how to contact Marty Isham?
Sandra Castlebery Few
Stephanie Hogue firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: August 4, 2010
Subject: Sabre damage reports
You've been a big help in the past, and I'm hoping you and your
readers will come through again.
Back in about 2000, someone sent me contact info for a man who worked
on the Sabre at North American. When he retired, he was allowed
to take North American's copies of all the Sabre damage reports
I mentioned this to a couple of DPMO analysts at the last Korean/Cold
War POW/MIA briefing, and they would love to get copies of these
reports. It would be helpful in my uncle's case and possibly some
others. Unfortunately, I've moved and seem to have lost the contact
info for this gentleman.
Can anyone help me out?
Veile, Mark A. (JSC-NC311) email@example.com
Subject: 23rd Fighter Squadron Photos
Date: June 8, 2010
F-86 Webmaster -
Please post this note in your news, notes, and comments. I'm looking
for photos of F-86s serving with the 23rd Squadron or 36th Wing
at Bitburg. My name is Mark Veile and I was a member of the 23rd
Tac Fighter Squadron flying the F-4 Phantom from 1984 -87. I am
also a model builder and have started a project to build models
of the 23rds aircraft throughout its history. I have found photos
of almost all of the squadron's aircraft types but have come up
short with the F-86. The 23rd was based at Bitburg AB, Germany with
the 36th Fighter Wing. They flew the F-86F from 1953-56. I am looking
for photos of the F-86s with the 23rd FS or 36th FW at that time.
I have found one photo on-line of a 461st FS F-86 that was attached
to the 36th at that time. I believe all of the wing's jets were
carried similar style markings with the squadron colors being the
only difference. In the photo the jet looks to be overall grey in
color as opposed to natural metal. Does anyone know if this is true?
If anyone has photos or information they can share, please reply
to me at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Ray Boone email@example.com
Subject: F-86 Static display, Sembach AB, Germany
Date: May 2, 2010
I?m looking for any information on an F-86F, 52-5372, currently
on display at Sembach, AB Germany.
I?m active duty Air Force stationed at Ramstein AB., and part of
a team planning to move this aircraft from its current location
to Ramstein, refurbish it to 86th Fighter-Bomber / Fighter Interceptor
Wing markings, as depicted in the attached pic, and displayed as
part of developing Air Park here on Ramstein.
I've contacted the Wing Historian, but haven?t? heard back from
them yet and continuing my research on-line.
I don?t know if you have any archive data on these acft or this
one, but anything you have or directions you can point me in, is
with an aviation history group in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area
called Wings of the North. Each summer we produce the most prestigious
aviation event in our area call the AirExpo. AirExpo 2010 is scheduled
for July 17-18 at Flying Cloud Airport, just southwest of MSP. For
this show we bring together aviation dignitaries from different
time periods and disciplines. We have Doolittle Raiders, Tuskegee
Airmen, WASPs, Viet Nam aircrews, astronauts, forward air controllers,
and so on. We always have trouble locating Korean War airmen.ÿ
General Boots Blesse has come up from Florida a few times and we
have some Marine Corsair pilots locally who flew in both WWII and
Korea. We would like to have some more F-86 pilots.
you put out the word to your members who live in the Twin Cities
area that we would like them to contact us about being part of AirExpo
2010. They can find more information about the show on our web site
at www.airexpo-mn.org. The site also has a nice video that was shot
at AirExpo 2008. I think Boots is even on it. We'd like to find
at least 3 or 4 Sabre pilots who could represent the Korean War
time period at the show. Any help you can give me will be appreciated.
Your members can contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org. If they would like
to call me instead my number is 612-867-5866.
you for your help.
Vice President, Wings of the North.
is Dick Gold M/SGT Ret. I flew with the 115th from 1965 to 1984
with a two year break flying KC-97's at O'Hare in Chicago. Finished
my flying career at Norton on C-141's. I currently live in Sacramento
and volunteer at the Aerospace Museum located at the old McClellan
AFB. I am the Crew Chief on an F-86f Sabre (51-13082) that's last
duty assignment was with the 195th F.I.S. at Van Nuys Air National
Guard Base in California.
was at Goleta California for many years before being donated to the
museum. It has been "let go" and is in bad need of some "TLC" The
aircraft cockpit has been gutted and the paint is gone in many places.
The current paint scheme is a combination of the "boomerang" and the
115th scheme. I plan to paint it in the correct 195th red, black and
white scheme. I have been able to find almost all the cockpit components
but still lack a gunsight, seat back plate and rails and the engine
start panel. I have located a gunsight and continue to look for the
other two parts. We will be making some of the side console parts
from pictures and drawings.
a special love for this bird because as a young child, I spent hours
at the end of the runway just waiting to see them come and go. It
led to my wanting to fly and many years of enjoyment and fun. It's
now my turn to try and keep this aircraft and its history alive!
seeking funds to help with the project as well as any pictures, memorabilia,
stories, old uniforms, patches and anything else that would help with
our display. All donors will be given credit with their names painted
on the main gear doors. We hope to "unveil" it next spring and if
you're interested in being there, let us know at email@example.com.
Donations can be made directly to the museum and are tax deductible.
They can be sent to the Aerospace Museum of California 3200 Freedom
Park Dr. McClellan Ca 95652 Indicate it's for the F-86f.
donations, please contact me at the above e mail.
William Sawyer firstname.lastname@example.org
Date: June 12, 2009
Subject: dads plane
Hello, my dad was the Crew Chief on the F86d, Dennis the Menace.
I would like to know how to find the pilot, Lt. Finlay.
I think he was with Wright Patterson.
Any info.... where to look, would be helpful
Thanks Bill Sawyer
Subject:67th FBS Korea
Date:June 12, 2009
On Jun 12, 2009, Gary wrote:
My father was Gary G. Wright and a member of the 67th FBS at K55.
He graduated from Pilot Training Class 52G. I would appreciate any
info/stories about him from any members.
I would also appreciate copies/scans of any photos members may have
of him or the 67th FBS F86's. The name on the side of my dads plane
was "When The Lights Go Out Again".
As I am in ill health, I have been trying to put information together
for my children to better know their grandfather.He has been MIA
since 1-17-67 while flying with the 11th TRS out of Udorn Thailand.
Thanks for any help!
Gary Wright Jr.
Joe Neale email@example.com
Date: October 24, 2008
Subject: Phil Neale
My father, Phil Neale, flew F-86's with the 93rd at Kirtland AFB
from 1953-1955 and with the 525th in Bitburg, Germany from 1955-1958.
After that he transferred to Edwards AFB where he was a test pilot
and flight test instructor. He was killed on September 8, 1965
during a test flight of a Dassault Balzac near Paris, France.
Anyhow, I would appreciate it if any of his fellow F-86 pilots from
Kirtland or Bitburg can contact me (firstname.lastname@example.org). Since he
died when he was 35-years-old, I'm attempting to put together some
information for my brothers/sisters and his grandchildren so they
can know what kind of man he really was. Any kind of stories (on
or off duty) would really be appreciated.
GREGORY THOMAS email@example.com
Subject: F-86H Information
Date: September 22, 2008
My name is Greg Thomas and I am trying to get some information about
the F-86H. I am a member of the Pacific Coast Air Museum in Santa
Rosa, California. We have an F-86H that I am the Crew Chief on.
I am hoping that maybe you can help me, the serial number is 53-1308,
we were able to save this aircraft from the bad men who destroy
aircraft at China Lake. What I am looking for is some of the history
on this aircraft and any available manuals, flight or maintnenace
so that I can properly restore it to the condition that it should
I would appreciate any help that you can supply.
Date: September 27, 2008
Subject: F-86H 53-1308
My name is Matt Hensarling and I'm heading up a static restoration
of F-86H 53-1380 in Denver, Colo. This is a long shot but I figured
I would ask anyway - we are in search of an H model canopy or at
least the bubble as we have a frame. Our bird is currently fitted
with a D model canopy with a modified fairing to make it fit. We'd
like to replace the D model canopy with something accurate. Any
idea at all where I can locate a H model canopy or at least the
Wings Over the Rockies Air & Space Museum
Henry Matthews firstname.lastname@example.org
Date: September 26, 2008
My name is Henry Matthews. I am an independent author/publisher
of books on the history of experimental aircraft. I only print two
or three hundred copies of each title, so mine is far from a profitable
business. But my aim is to preserve history in book form.
I need to know who made the first flight of the second and third
XP-86 prototypes. And I need to know the number of flights made
by each of the three prototypes.
Can you provide this information, or direct me to someone who may?
Because the Sabre was such a phenomenal success story, its initial
protypes have never been properly documented as the opertional aircraft
took all the attention of writers and publishers. This is how experimental
aviation history is lost.
I would love to produce a monograph on the XP-86 prototypes, with
complete flight logs and pictures and bios of the test pilots. Can
you help in providing this material?
Please take a look at my website for an idea of my work and what
I hope to do.
With best regards
Cass C email@example.com
Date: September 26, 2008
Subject: Searching for a pilot
Thank you for posting my earlier request. I spoke to my father
about the site and he asked me to forward a request in hopes someone
knew this man. I'll try to relay the events correctly but I'm not
a pilot so my words may not do justice to the request.
My father, Frank P. Robison is looking for the pilot who flew with
the 4th Fighter Wing, 16th Squadron at K-14.
His first combat mission, he flew as White 4 in summer of 1951.
The leader and element leader pitched out and White 4 was told to
join up with White 2...my father.
They were after 24 Migs attacking an F-80 squadron.
Later that year, possibly winter of 51/52, this pilot received heavy
damage to his transmission and was forced to belly in an F86 at
K-14. Dad was very impressed with the pilot's skill and at one
time, had a copy of the accident report but later, it was given
to another pilot and Dad never saw it again. He is looking for
the pilot or his family or possibly someone who knew him. He does
not recall the pilot's name.
If you have any information, you can contact me via email and I
will forward it to my father.
Mac McKinnon firstname.lastname@example.org
Date: August 1, 2008 10:01:22 AM EDT
My name is Mac McKinnon and I'm publsiher of the Dublin Citizen
newspaper and am involved with the Dublin American Legion. Part
of one of our projects has been a Dublin Veterans' memorial and
we have recently obtained a state historical marker to commemorate
that site and honor Lt. Col. George Davis who was shot down in Korea
while flying an F-86. He was awarded the Medal of Honor. Our Memorial
is located on the Korean War Memorial Highway (U.S. Hwy. 6).
We have space for a static display of an F-86 if we can find one.
However, that has proven to be a difficult task as few of those
exist. We do not need an aircraft in flying condition but one we
could let people see and know that was the machine that Col. Davis
taught so many pilots how to fly and the fact that he was an ace
in Korea. Any help would be appreciated.
Gene R Carlson email@example.com
Date: July 22, 2008
Subject: 355th Fighter Group - McGhee-Tyson TN
My name is Gene Carlson and I am a member of the 355th Fighter Association.
It is an "all inclusive" organization for any and all current or
former 355th members from 1942 to the present. Our membership consists
primarily of WWII and Vietnam era veterans with one member who was
with the 355th at both McGhee-Tyson TN and at Takhli Thailand. We
also have a few current active duty 355th members. I would like
to see some of the 355th veterans from McGhee-Tyson era join us
We are looking for anyone who served with the 355th Fighter Group
at McGhee-Tyson TN (1955-1958). Our next reunion is tentatively
scheduled for Oct 09 in San Antonio TX.
Would also be interested in any historical data on the 355th at
McGhee-Tyson TN that you might care to share with us. BTW, I need
a photo of a 355th F-86 for my web site. Any help you would provide
me would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for your time and I hope to hear from you soon.
355th Munitions Maintenace Squadron
Gun Services Section (A-7D)
March 1973 - May 1976
My "UnOfficial" 355th web site
Thomas Wildenberg firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: A1-C gunsight research
I am researching the origins, development and operational history
of the A1-C lead computing gun sight, which some sources claim to
have played a significant role in the Korean War victories secured
by Sabre pilots.. I would like to contact those of your membership
who had experience with this device to obtain there option and information
regarding it's effectiveness, importance and reliability. Please
let me know the best way that his can be accomplished.
Don Webb email@example.com
Date: May 18, 2008
Subject: Looking for Person who emergency-landed a F-86
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
I had sent this request months ago, but do not know if you posted
it, or if I missed someone's response to it. Would appreciate if
you would run again. Back in either 1954, 1955 or 1956, (can't rememer
the exact year) as a small boy in the small north Florida community
of Lee, (Madison County) Florida, I recall an incident of where
a pilot had to make an emergency landing of what I believe was an
F-86 fighter jet. The site of this incident was approximately 30
miles south of Valdosta, Georgia, 50 miles east of Tallahassee,
Florida and 100 miles west of Jacksonville, Florida. The pilot put
the jet down on a paved 2 lane "farm to market" road (1 mile north
of the Lee community on SR 255), but for some reason it came to
rest off the shoulder of the road. I do not recall from which base
this plane originated. It may have been from Moody AFB (Georgia),
Maxwell AFB (Alabama) or Eglin AFB (Florida). I have searched for
years and years for more info on this incident. I hope that someone
reading this may recall and can share more about it with me.
"Mark P. Wicka" MWicka@timesaversinc.com
Date: May 6, 2008
Subject: Looking for Info
I was wondering if any one had any info on my uncle, Lt. Robert
H. Workman. He flew the F-86 and for some time he was stationed
in Tripoli. After that he was an instructor based in Florida.
He was killed in 1955, he was in a T-33 somewhere over the US east
coast. The story I was told was that a Lt. Col. was at the controls,
flew into a thunderhead, blew the canopy, and my uncle was sucked
out. I was only 2 years old when he was killed.
Field Service Tech
"Paul Mather" firstname.lastname@example.org
Date: March 6, 2008
Subject: Inadvertant take-off, F-86
I'm in the process of trying to pull together a collection
of true aviation-related stories. ? Many many years ago,
I recall reading a magazine article about a most amazing incident.
A USAF mechanic, after performing some late-night maintenance on
an F-86, decided to perform a high speed taxi test. After calling
the tower and gaining permission to take the runway (and already
having the proper runup and taxi license to perform such tests),
he accelerated down the runway and soon found himself airborne.
Most of the details of this incident are vague in my memory, but
I seem to recall that another F-86 was scrambled to join up with
the hapless mechanic, and he was eventually talked back down on
a long straight-in approach to a safe landing. I seem to recall
that this took place at a base in the southwest, perhaps at Luke,
or at Williams.
Would any of your members have knowledge of this story? I need
a place to begin my research, so any fragment of information about
this incident would be very helpful. Many thanks for your assistance.
Paul D. Mather
LtCol USAF (Ret)
Dwain Kline email@example.com
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008
Subject: Looking for Korean War pilot
I'm looking for a Harold "Hal" Herringshaw, who flew an F-86 in
the Korean war. He is from New York state and was in the air force
from 1950 to 1959. Any info would be very much appreciated.
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007
Subject: Vegas, 1954
I was at the Monte Carlo hotel during the last Sabre Pilots reunion
and talked with several of you about Nellis and Las Vegas in the
early 1950s. My thanks to those of you who took a few minutes to
speak with me.
I'm writing a book about the search for my father, who I believe
was a pilot, and my mother, an English woman who lived and worked
in Las Vegas in 1953 - 1954. She was killed in a car crash when
I was an infant, so I never knew her, and know little about her
I'm coming to the end of my search and my writing, but some questions,
and a great mystery, still remain. Does anyone remember a radio
show known as "Midnite Along Fremont Street" hosted by Jack Kogan?
Did anyone know my mother, Ann Preston? And, most importantly, does
anyone remember an officer of Greek ethnicity who would have been
at Nellis in the early months of 1954?
This means so much to me, and to my sons, who would like to know
their heritage. Thank You! Hilary Harper
CHRIS TALLEVAST firstname.lastname@example.org
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007
Subject: Research-539th FIS
Gentlemen, Looking to get in touch with anyone who served with the
539th FIS at McGuire in the summer of 1958, who may have known my
Uncle. I am working on a Masters Degree in Military History, and
very interested in this period, as well as the family connection.
Appreciate an e-mail or call and may even be able to pay a small
fee for an interview that will help my research.
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007
Subject: F-86D acft 52-3864 and F-86F 52-4743
I have been looking for any and all information on two particular
Sabre aircraft F-86D acft 52-3864 and F-86F 52-4743.
52-3864 was assigned to the 62nd FIS at O-Hare Int'l Airport, il.
Later it went to the 85th FIS at Scott AFB in 1955. Last know to
have been on display at the VFW in Lanham, MD.
52-4743 was assigned to the 452nd Fighter Day Sqdn at Foster AFB,
TX. Later went to the 49th FBW at Chitose maybe to the 336th FBS.It
ended up with the Phillippine AF.
If anyone has any information on these aircraft or pictures it would
be greatly appreciated.
Kurt Gibson email@example.com.
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007
Whomever: I was withe the 15th fighter interceptor squadron in 1955
>1957. Worked With Evert Beuchamp a civilian eng with Lockheed.
We repaired the Integrated fuel control systems on the F-86 dogs
. Are any of the pilots from the 15Th still alive and attending
the get together's.
Chief Mate USNS EFFECTIVE
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007
Subject: Gathering information
I am doing some research for my wife who her father was a F86 pilot
during the 1950's. She has pictures of him in the 93rd Fighter Squadron
at Wheeler AFB. There is an article that talks about him flying
a F-86 Sabre there. Also an article that talks about the gunnery
team of the 81st fighter gunnery event. Pictures of him of him at
Las Vegas airbase for gunnery event. He was also in the 93rd Fighter
Interceptor Squadron at Kirtland AFB in New Mexico 1951. Another
article about him in Suffolk England with the only Sabre group in
Europe in march 1953. He also flew F84F jets at Bentwater England
in 1954. Then he was at Brooks Air Force Base 10th District for
the Office of Special Investigations. He retired as a Lt. Colonel
John Fink and passed away in 1980. Thank you in advance and I wait
for you response.
Captain Kirk G. Rhoda
U.S. Merchant Marine Services
David Neafcy firstname.lastname@example.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007
Subject: 45th Fighter Day Squadron
Hello - I'm trying to contact Wendell B. Stockdale who was a pilot
of the 45th, based in Morocco. On 22nd March 1956, when I was just
4 years old, he crashed his Sabre here in England whilst en route
to Prestwick, Scotland. I know that he was living in Lancaster,
Pennsylvania in 2001 and I would dearly like to contact him. (Prompted
by my off-spring, I'm writing a book about my childhood). Witnessing
that crash is one of my earliest memories and if I close my eyes
I can still see his helmet, lying in a muddy field, split and covered
in blood and the Sabre with its wings torn off. If anyone knows
Mr Stockdale I would be very grateful if they could ask him to contact
me or point me in the right direction.
Many thanks, Dave Neafcy.
Lindy Corgey email@example.com
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007
Subject: Any Knowledge Of Lt. Russell J. Brown F80C Kills MiG15,
8 Nov 50
I was just wondering if your organization has any knowledge of Lt.
Russell Brown. The U.S.A.F. Museum has his ID Card and cigarette
case. Even though it was not a F86. It is still impressive that
a F80C could kill a MiG15. The G-suit and superior training paid
off. Thank you for reading my email.
Hudson Renat MSgt 166MXM/LGMFS firstname.lastname@example.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Subject: F-86 Ejection Seat
Hello, I am currently in the middle of restoring an ejection seat
and was curious as to what the back pad was made out of. I can't
find any decent pictures to help me. Our unit is working on placing
the plane in front of our base and they want to display the seat
in our HQ. If you could send me a good picture or let me know what
the seat consists of, any help would be greatly appreciated. Here
is a picture of the seat so far. Thank You.
Renat "NAT" Hudson
MSgt, DE Air Guard
Surv Equip NCOIC
Sent:Thu, May 10, 2007
I flew F-86Fs with Bill Coe with the 8th Fighter-Bomber Wing, 35th
Squadron, out of K-13 in 1953. Haven't heard of him since. He was
a very interesting and colorful guy and if anyone out there has
any information on him, I would appreciate hearing about it.
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006
Lynn Farnsworth, Misty 146
Hello. I am looking for members of the 461st FS from the 1950s when
the squadron was flying F-86s and F-100s in West Germany. The 461st
Flight Test Squadron recently reactivated at Edwards AFB. I am trying
to get in contact with our members from years past so I can reconstruct
some of our squadron history, which seems to have been lost over
the years. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Matt "T2" Ryan
of an F-86H
October 2, 2006
Member Bill Studer bought and restored and F-86H. He has donated
it and it is to be dedicated at a Memorial in Lakeview MN on November
11, 2006. For Information, Photo and more check Lakeville
"William Powell" email@example.com
Subject: Perrin AFB Class 51G
Date: Saturday, August 26, 2006
I was in class 51G at Perrin. Would like to hear from classmates
if they are still alive. The AvCad web page is devoid of this class.
Thought I would try your web and hope for a hit or two.
WWll Willie Wilson firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Looking 4 help!
Date: Monday, August 14, 2006 1:47 PM
I'm "looking" for someone who flew the 86 at Geiger Field in Spokane,
WA some years ago.
What I am looking for is one of the old "Geigers Tigres" F86 pilots
who has a copy of the Sqdn made movie titled "Geigers Tigres" that
they will let me borrow, make a DVD copy and mail it back to them.
I've been attempting to get in touch with Edward "Buddy" R. Haydon,
but so far I've come up empty. He would be approx 86 years old and
may no longer be with us - I just do not know.
I am collecting all the old Fighter Squadron funny made movies I
can get my hands on, plus "other" interesting to Fighter Pilots
stuff. After I do collect as many of these Sqdn made movies, I will
have a DVD (perhaps 2 DVDs) made and sell them at cost. So far I
have approx 53 requests for the DVDs, and I haven't even asked for
an order yet!! In fact, I'm still in the "gathering stages" of my
project. I have 4-5 Sq made movies so far, but I must collect all
I can, "FIRST" so I can view, have changes made and time each movie
and set up a sequnce of how I want to have them put put on the DVD(s).
This is very time consuming.
Movies I have so far are:
"A Typical Fighter Pilots Day At Itazuke"
"Throw a Nickel on the Grass"
"Gold Bond Powder"
A 16mm film of an "F-100 Thunderbird Show" (in color, sound approx
15-18 mins long) Various video clips, 4 or 5 (from the Internet)
of various intrest "There Is A Way" (F-105 pilots bombing raids
in NVN and interviews with pilots-made for TV ...and other things
I cannot recall at the moment.
If anyone has or knows where I can obtain the"Geigers Tigres" film
please get in touch with me..
Thanks a million,
430 Terrace Hill Blvd
Tel (386) 775-3332
Subject: 444th Fighter Interceptor Squadron
Date:June 19, 2006
I am looking for any information regarding my Dad, John David Brownlee.
He was a GE engineer at the AFB in Charleston, SC in 1959 when he
was killed in an auto accident on Rifle Range Rd. Among his belongings
was a ceramic beer stein with the squadron insignia, the year &
his last name.
My mom died last year & we've just laid my grandmother to rest
last week. Both women were tragically affected by his death &
never recovered from the loss. At the time of his death, unbeknownst
to my mother, she was 3 weeks pregnant with me. Neither of these women
could bear to speak about my dad without completely losing it, so
I am desperate for information about my dad. He is a myth & a
legend that I am trying to make real. Any information would be so
Realtor, ABR, GRI
Subject: Sabre Piloits Assn
Date: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:46 PM
The pictures below are pictures taken in the summer of 1955 at Itazuke
AB, Japan. The formations are F-86F's of the 36th and 36th FBS,
8th FBW during a flyby for a Group or Wing Commanders departure.
I flew in the formation and believe it might be the last formation
that big (40 ship) since WWII and the only formation that large
of the Sabre.
Pictures of me taken in Suwon (K-13) Korea in July 1954 prior to
Wg move to Itazuke. Scarf of 36th FBS "Flying Fiends" (Again now
at Osan AB, Korea as 36th TFS)
The 2nd Lt. Robert L. King
Flying Fiends Scarf
Subject: Joe Lynch-test pilot
Date: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:42 PM
It was very meaningful to me today to read a story published in
1993 by Neil Fossum titled " The Ramp Went Silent..." For you see,
the pilot, Joe Lynch was my Father. It happened so many years ago,
and yet it only seems like yesterday. My Father had been very upset
about the construction of the tail of the plane and had spoken to
my Mother about it alot before the air show. He told her it just
did not feel right and she said she realized in thinking about it
later, how very worried he was. North American attributed the accident
to "pilot error", but none of the pilots thought that. We were coming
home from the market that evening about 6:00 P.M. and my Mother
mentioned that the car behind us looked familiar, but it passed
our house. Then a little later, the doorbell rang, and the executives
from North American were at the door. I may be wrong, but I think
George Welch was killed 6 months later. My Father was very good
friends with Bob Hoover, and Dan Darnell and the list goes on. Ironically,
my Father was going to stop testing planes after this tour throughout
After he died, his friends put together a book of pictures of my
Father and all of the planes he flew or tested throughout his life.
Also, framed pictures of him and the other pilots and models of
all of the fighter planes.
My Mother never got over his death. She just died in January. I
wish she could have read this story. Daddy became very religious
before he was killed. Maybe he knew something. He was only 33.
Georgia Lynch McClure
Subject: member picture
Date: Monday, April 24, 2006
My father was George Robert Grosz Jr, passed in 2002.
I have a (see photo below), poster sized of Sabres over San Francisco
I believe. Tail Numbers 23761, 23736, 23678, 23692. I dont know
who the other pilots are nor the group all though they all have
striped tails and bulls snorting on the side.
I'd like to get it to someone who might appreciate it, perhaps one
of the other pilots or ??? well I don't know, but there has to be
a better solution than the garbage.
Let me know what you think might be best.
G. Robert Grosz III
Subject: 1st Fighter 27th Squadron Rome, N.Y. 1950-51
Date: Friday, March 31, 2006
I would like to locate and contact members of the 1st Fighter 27th
Squadron Rome, NY - 1950-51 era. I have just recently learned of an
autobiography written by Lt. Col Robert W. Smith, titled, "NF104.com"
and my dad George "Buster" Helbing, was pictured with Lt. Joe Moore.
students Joe Krumerine, Charlie Roby, Bob Smith, John McCulloch and
Lloyd White. Other possible members could be John Honaker, Flight
Commander Bill Wisner, Maj Robin Olds,and Maj Clayton Peterson. If
you happen to know any of these gentleman or are one of these gentleman,
please drop me an email or a phone call, I would like to talk with
you regarding my dad. When I saw the picture from Lt Col Smiths book
you couldn't believe how excited I was, perhaps there are other memories
you could share. Look forward to hearing from you.
636 527 4213
Saint Louis, Mo
Subject: Giger Tiger Video
Date: Thursday, March 16, 2006
My grandfather served with the Giger Tigers unit, and we were recently
trying to locate the video that the squadron produced, and from what
I read, gained some amount of popularity for. We have applied him
for the Wright Brother's Master Pilot Award recently, and for the
ceremony would like to play this video. We were unable to locate it,
although he is trying to contact some of his former squadronmates
for copies of it. Is there any place I can purchase this video, or
is there someone that has a copy of it that you would know of? If
you could help me out with this, I would greatly appreciate it.
Subject: Sabre stuff
Date: Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:56 PM
It was my great pleasure to get to fly the F-86H at China Lake, California
about 1972-75. We were converting them to "full-scale maneuvering
targets" -- QF-86Hs. I love to tell about flying it. I tell that after
making my first touch-and-go landing, I said "There's no need to practice
any more; I'll never make a better landing than that." It was that
easy to fly. I tell people that it was the sweetest flying plane I
ever flew. (In the Navy I flew Banshees, Skyrays, Demons and Phantoms
in carrier based squadrons, and numerous other jets during a 31-year
I am planning
on joining. I would like to see if I can locate anyone who flew with
Henry A. Sibley, Jr. in 1951-52. He was a high school classmate. He
went through F-86 training at Willie and then went to K-14 in Korea.
Crash landed a Sabre at Kimpo about June 1952. Broke both ankles as
well as his back. Medically retired. He was best man at my wedding
in 1953. Died of lung cancer 8 April 1994; buried at Ft Sam Houston.
Captain, USN Retired
Corpus Christi, Texas
James E Col ACSC/CV
Subject: F-86 Crash Near Prescott, Arizona
Date: Wednesday, December 21, 2005
To Whom It May Concern:
I recently met a retired AF colonel/pilot from Montgomery, Alabama
who related a story about finding a crashed F-86 near Prescott, Arizona
sometime around 1968. The colonel was hunting deer and came across
scattered metal near the base of a sheer cliff. Further investigation
turned up large pieces of wreckage, human bone fragments, and the
pilot's helmet, unused parachute, and wallet, complete with cash and
driver's license. The face of the cliff still bore unmistakable deep
impact marks of the jet's 6 machine guns. The colonel reported his
find to the authorities at Luke AFB where he was stationed. To the
best of his recollection, he later learned the pilot and plane went
missing in 1953 after taking off single-ship from Williams AFB en
route to March AFB. The pilot, a young African-American lieutenant
was never heard from again.
Can anyone shed any more light on this mishap? The colonel wasn't
quite sure of his dates, but his recollections of the day he found
the crashed F-86 seemed quite vivid. Does anyone know if the wreckage
might still exist? I know Prescott has grown considerably since the
60s and many sites may have been disturbed by urban sprawl.
Buzz Aldrin's Sabre
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 10:38 AM
I posted a query about The markings of Buzz Aldrin's Sabre on a website
having a militayr forum and was directed to your page as a possible
source for the information.
I represent the Buzz Aldrin Science Center
www.njaa.org and we are updating the Buzz's display to include
not only his journey aboard Apollo but his military service as well.
We would like to accurately model his F-86 and F-100 but are finding
it terribly hard to learn what the markings were. Do you have any
information/images that you could point me to? Thanks in advance.
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004
Subject: F-86 Info
Dear Sir: 54 years ago my dad was killed while on a training mission
out of Griffiss AFB in Rome, NY. He was flying an F-86 at the time.
The plane went down north of Rome approx. 30 miles in a heavily wooded
area. Two weeks ago after doing some research from accident report
I was able to visit the site where his plane went down. It is still
there in a heavily wooded area. It is all broken up after it went
thru a bunch of trees but it is there, the military did not take it
out of the woods. I brought a few pieces of the plane home and I would
like to identify them but will need some help from an aircraft mechanic
that knows the plane well. On another note, maybe someone in your
association knew my dad so I would like to provide some additional
information and perhaps they would be willing to contact me and provide
some insight, I was only 3 years old at the time of his death. His
name was George H. Helbing, he was a 2nd LT, assigned out of Griffiss
in the 1st Ftr Interc, 71st Ftr Int. His plane was an F 86 ASN A,
SN 49-1203 A and the crash date was 13 Sep 1950. Appreciate any assistance
or direction that you might be able to provide.
John E. Helbing
Ph 636 527 4213
St. Louis, Mo
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Subject: 323rd FIS, 31st FIS, 440th FIS
Date: Friday, November 04, 2005 9:34 PM
As an enlisted man, I was a radio tech in the 323rd and 31st at Larson
AFB all thru 1953, and with the 440th for 6months at Geiger field
first half of 1954, went to Europe with it and stayed with it for
another year. We went over on the US Tripoli (CVE-64) with another
F-86D squadron. I believe we were the first to go to Europe,
I was also told the 323rd was the first tactical unit to get the "Dog"
but could never verify this.
Do you know if there were any unit histories published of the 3 mentioned
units...or any stories about them?
Our son has been asking me questions about what I did in service.
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005
I would like to thank you for having this wesite available (although
not all the links are working properly).
I'm the new airport manager of the Jamestown Regional Airport (JMS)
in Jamestown, ND. I began here in February of 2005. In 1970, the city
was lucky enough to aquire an F-86H to put on display. Up until about
8-years ago the aircraft was maintained in the original condition
it was brought to Jamestown. Unfortunately the aircraft fell into
the hands of a well meaning, airport manager, who decided to "repaint"
the plane. As a result, he ended up painting over the decals, tail
number, among other things. I am unable to find photos of the original
aircraft and the airport is trying to figure out whether the aircraft
arrived with the camouflage paint as shown in the photo or was the
traditional silver. The only identification I have with paper work
says the aircraft is Serial #53-1253. We are also looking for the
original history of this particular aircraft.
We are in the process of preparing for a city-wide 125th Anniversary
and are kicking off the celebration with an airshow in 2008. As a
result, the airshow committee is beginning the process of aquiring
funding to refurbish the F-86H back to its original condition. If
anyone in the Sabre Pilots Association, has any information about
this particular aircraft or wants to donate time or money in the restoration
of it, the Jamestown Regional Airport would be appreciative. Please
send all information to firstname.lastname@example.org or Jamestown Regional
Airport, c/o Jennifer Eckman, P.O. Box 1560, Jamestown, ND 58402-1560
Thanks for any assistance in this matter.
Jennifer K. Eckman
Jamestown Regional Airport
P.O. Box 1560
Jamestown, ND 58402-1560
Subject: Markings of the F-86H of the 1st FDS
Date: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 4:24 AM
My name is Vincent Prinsen. I'm a 31 year old Dutch airline pilot.
Currently I'm doing some research into the history of the 1st Fighter
Squadron. Therefor I'm looking for any information on the markings
of the F-86H's of the 1st FDS. Can you please help me in anyway?
Thank you very much,
Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2005
Greetings from Australia
I'm a writer working on a story involving F-86 jocks in the Korean
war. I'm particularly interested to know of encounters with Soviet
pilots who flew clandestine MiG 15 missions in the theatre, and of
any special strategies that may have been devised to deal with them
or tempt them south of the line -- well south of the 60 mile safety
buffer they were supposed to observe.
I'm familiar with stories of 'Casey Jones', the Soviet pilot who won
notoriety in the theatre, but any other yarns would be most welcome.
For example, any anecdotes concerning the use of the Korean phrase
books these pilots were supposed to use to conceal their combat presence,
and how they were ultimately heard breaking into the mother-tongue,
would be invaluable.
Love the stories, the tradition, the grit and the affection you guys
retain for these remarkable birds.
+ 61 7 3369 0247
Subject: "An F-86H is Reborn"
Date: Monday, August 08, 2005
I'm trying to track down information about an F-86H that was featured
in you magazine in the early 1990's. Ed Buerckholtz wrote several
articles about the aircraft being acquired and restored by Spirit
Fighters. I've found the first four articles on your web site but
can't find the rest of the story. The aircraft, serial number 53-1250,
has ended up in Minnesota where it has been donated to a local city
to put out in a veterans memorial in a park and left to rot away.
What a shame. We are hoping to convince them otherwise, but could
use the story as to why the restoration was never completed. We tried
to contact Spirit Fighters without success. Any help you could give
us would be appreciated.
Date: Friday, July 15, 2005
I am reading a recently released book, "Sabres Over MiG Alley", by
Mr. Kenneth P Werrell. This is the most thoroughly researched and
documented account of the F-86 that I have ever read. It is NOT a
"coffee table" book, with slick pages and many photos (although there
are about 20 photos), but reads like an F-86 textbook. In fact, it
is a normal size hard-cover book (233 pages of text, plus 85 pages
of footnotes, bibliography, and index). The author is a 1960 grad
of the Air Force Academy, and has been a professor since leaving the
Air Force. He cites MANY interviews, and includes MANY footnotes and
an extensive bibliography. Bruce Hinton is quoted often, and Mr. Werrell
gives praise to SabreJet Classics as a prime source of information
about the F-86. He has many footnotes citing SJC, as well as Larry's
and Warren Thompson's excellent Sabre books.
I quote from what Werrell calls a Bibliographic Essay: "There is considerable
material of a mixed nature in magazines....Of these many periodicals
I would emphasize three. SabreJet Classics is the organ of the F-86
Sabre Pilots Association that prints interesting and useful first
person accounts; the magazine appears on the Internet........Larry
Davis also published a lengthy, detailed, excellent, and extensively
illustrated study of the F-86 in volumes 10 & 11 of [Wings of
Although I have not finished reading the whole book, I have found
only a few small errors - mostly poor editing. In one case, the author
says that Jim Jabara became history's first jet ace on 20 April 1951
(wrong month), then later he mentions the correct date - 20 May 1951.
Overall, the mass of correct information is more than I've ever seen
in one place.
Gents, I commend this book to each of you, and you can learn more
by clicking on:
A Google search for "Sabres Over MiG Alley" will turn up several other
sites (including Amazon).
CIV Ray email@example.com
Subject: RE: John E. Southerland
Date: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:54 AM
I am a syndicated columnist and am researching the loss of 1st Southerland.
Can you put me in contact with any of the other pilots on Southerland's
John E Southerland was a F-86 pilot lost on June 6, 1953. He was number
two in a four man flight. He will be the first MIA from Korea I will
do an article on. If any of the pilots are still alive they can give
me an accounting of the mission itself.
Amphibious Assault Vehicle
Ann Phelan firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Re: John Findley Knight F-86 pilot
Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005
My name is Deb Ann Phelan and I live in San Luis Obispo, California.
My email address is email@example.com but I will be changing
to sbcglobal shortly. I hope to keep the same user name. This is also
my Yahoo messenger user ID (longspur36).
Below is a post I made last night to Acepilots.com regarding my dad.
Today I received a return post that referred me to your site. I have
decided that I have wasted enough time just wondering if there is
any way to find someone who knew dad; and now I'm looking.
hope I don't goof this up! First time post, flying w/o an engineer
this eve. My name is Deb Ann and I'm searching for anyone that might
have flown in Korea with my Dad. He was Air Force and flew F-86s.
His name was John Findley Knight. He passed away several years ago
after a long battle with cancer. I did get to know Galen Fox who
lived here on the central coast of California, but he is gone now
too. I'm very proud of all of you, but I really would like to see
if I could try to find anyone who knew him. He, as most of you probably
feel...did not want to talk about Korea.
My parents divorced years before my dad died and my mom is still
alive. Unfortunately very bitter still. She happened to come across
a connection to a pilot who flew with Dad who lives in Phoenix,
Arizona, but Mom will not make the contacts for me to make the connection.
I'm trying to reach out now. I'm back and forth between Phoenix
for rifle matches once in a while and would love to be able to connect
there, or with anyone else who might have known Dad. Thank you Gentlemen!
All the Best,
Subject: Lt. James A. Arnold, 51st FIS Gp Korea
Date: Saturday, April 30, 2005
I was a
high school student at the same high school as Lt. James A. Arnold.
He was a senior when I was a freshman in 1947. We went to a small
Catholic school, St. Pats, in Walla Walla, WA. I can always remember
Jimmy giving the nuns a hard time but he was respected and loved by
all the teachers and students. Also one of our top basketball players.
My brother dated his sister, Delores, before going into the seminary.
While in the seminary he corresponded with Jim while he was in Korea.until
his death. Jimmy gave me my first airplane ride in a Luscomb Silvair
in 1950. He loved to fly and one time while he was home, on leave,
during jet fighter training he kept us in awe about what he was going
for this message is to locate a pilot who flew with Jimmy during the
Korean conflict. I was in the Air Force myself when he went down in
Mar 1952. I was in Germany at the time and had a subscription to the
local paper. His picture was on the front page of the paper because
of his credit for 1/2 Mig shot down but also mentioned his death,
which about floored me. It would be grateful if I could here from
a person who new or flew with him. Did he fly lead or wing on missions?
Could you give me details on his last mission. I've heard allot of
second and third hand stories but would like to hear about him from
someone who flew or was close to him.
place is near our family plot and he is remembered every memorial
day. Lt. James Arnold, 51st FIS Gp. Korea
Victor Bebel firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Searching a Sabre pilot
Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2005
I'm a french USAF 1950/60 era's history enthusiast. I'm searching
career informations on a F-86 pilot who named MAGGERT. I believe
he was in the 474 FBS/FTW about 1955/1956 and flew on F-100 in 1957/58.
Please could you say me if you are any informations about him.
I'm sorry for my poor english. Thank you for any response you can
Franck Bellucci (Lyon - France)
Hesse Nathaniel B Capt 494 FS/DOD
Subject: Gen Erwin A. Hesse
Date: Friday, April 08, 2005
My name is Nate Hesse, and Gen Hesse is my granddad. He was my inspiration
as a kid, and remains one of my heroes to this very day. I remember
sitting at his house in Jacksonville, FL looking at all his pictures
from his old squadrons. He was the reason that I fly fighters today.
He flew the F-86 in Korea as a member of the Fourth Fighter Group,
and is credited with a MiG kill. My hero passed away last September,
and with him passed most of his stories about the war, even the
story of his MiG kill. I could never get him to talk about it, even
when supplied with a couple of beers. It was my wish to have him
tell me himself, in his words, what those days were like, but as
it stands, I'll happily settle for the stories second hand, so that
I might pass those stories to the rest of my family, as well as
my own children. If you know of anyone out there who might have
anything written down about him, especially his kill, could you
please have them contact me? Here is my contact info:
Capt Nate Hesse
494 FS D-Flight Commander
Perrin AFB Pilots Association email@example.com
Subject: A neat story about one of your Sabre members
Date: Monday, April 11, 2005
Dear Sabre Pilots Association.
My name is Shannon Thomas and I am one of the founders and directors
of the Perrin AFB Research Foundation and Perrin Pilots Association
I am a young man to the standards of an F-86 Pilot, I am only 36
years old, and I am a Texas State Highway Patrol Trooper by profession.
It just so happens our office is across the street from an American
Legion that has an F-86L model on static display. It has been there
since I was a kid back in the early seventies, and I get the privilege
of seeing it every time I drive to my office. The Dog was originally
at Perrin AFB years ago.
Since I am kind of a junior historian for the former Perrin AFB
I usually keep an eye out for things that could have had anything
to do with Perrin Field.
I published a Perrin AFB commemorative history book last summer
with Turner Publishing company, which I thought turned out really
There is a story about one of your members in here somewhere.
A good while back I was on patrol near the Oklahoma State line in
Denison Texas, Denison is just a few miles northeast of the former
Anyone who served there would remember downtown Denison, and many
of the guys that served at Perrin AFB from 1952 to 1962 flew the
F-86 D and L models.
Anyway I stopped a car on highway 84 traveling east at a pretty
good speed over the limit.
I walked up to the drivers side and I asked the driver, and older
gentleman for his drivers license, and he presented to me a Louisiana
I asked him why he was driving so fast, and he said he was on his
way to the hospital, that his wife's sister was in very bad heath.
He seemed very sincere, so I asked him to slow it down so he would
make it to the hospital safely and I issued him a written warning
for his speed.
As I had been talking to the man I noticed on his shirt was an embroidered
image that said F-86 Sabre Pilots Association.
As he was signing his warning I commented about his shirt and he
said he had been stationed at Perrin in the late 1950's and had
went through the F-86L program there.
I told him that I had figured as much, then I told him about my
interest in Perrin. We spoke about his time at Perrin for a only
a few minutes.
He told me that he had dated and then married a local Denison girl
while he was stationed and trained at Perrin. I can honestly say
that I have heard that a time or two.
His wife's sister still resided in the Denison area and they had
drove in from Louisiana because of her health.
The man thanked me for the warning and he was on his way, and the
traffic stop didn't cross my mind much after that.
One day sometime later I walked in to my office and my supervisor
called me over and he handed me a letter that had been address to
The letter was from the Sabre Pilot that I had stopped for speeding
a few sometime back.
The letter commended me for my professionalism and courtesy and
again thanked me for writing him a warning.
The letter went on to tell me that his sister in-law had passed
away later that same afternoon, and that he and his wife had taken
the blunt of the responsibility regarding her finances after her
death. He told me that the last thing he would have needed was to
have had to pay a ticket. My Sgt. told me good job and that a copy
of the letter would be placed in my personnel file.
I don't remember the Sabre pilots name, but I sure would like to
have him come to the Perrin AFB Pilots reunion that I am hosting
this summer in June. I would like to have the opportunity to set
down and visit with him for a while in an unofficial capacity. If
the F-86 Sabre Pilots Association has anyway of helping me find
your Louisiana members that served at Perrin I sure would appreciate
Sincerely and respectfully submitted
Trooper Shannon E Thomas
Subject: looking for information
Date: Thursday, March 24, 2004
I am searching for anyone who knew my father, Kenneth (Ken) Ellis,
at Perrin, an F86 Sabre pilot with the 4th Fighter Interceptor Wing
in both Kimpo, Korea and Chitose, Japan. We lost him in Viet Nam,
but I would love to have you share any memories or photos that you
might have. After leaving hitose, he was transferred to Chambley,
France (21st Fight Interceptors) and then Landstuhl/Ramstein (53rd
fighter bomber). We lost Daddy at far too young an age (53) but
Mother said that he would have wanted to be in the thick of it,
no matter what. Now we want to put together memories for his grandson.
Thank you so much,
Kathleen Anne Ellis
"Uwe & Martina Benkel"
Subject: F-86 crashsites in Germany
Date: Sunday, February 27, 2005
my name is Uwe Benkel from Heltersberg/Germany.
I`m doing research on crashsites of aircraft in the area where I
live. There are two crashsites of F-86 in the Kaiserslautern - Pirmasens
area. At one site we found a little plate with the following:
Aircraft Mod.: F 86 D
Part No.: 16531010 200
Cont No.: AF 22303
Serial No.: 5040
Contr.Insp.: ANA U 50
Is there a listing of F 86-crashsites in Germany?
Can anyone help?
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005
Subject: Captain John H. Paris Jr
I was wondering if any Sabre pilots knew Capt Joohn H.Paris Jr.
He and my dad flew F-86s together. Capt Paris was killed in a Sabre
crash at Hanscom AFB in the fall of 1963. I have very dim memories
of him when I was in the scouts. I was in the 4th grade when he
died and remember the shock on learning of his death.
That shock would be repeated several more times as I learned of
the deaths of fathers of grade school classmates who died in the
Vietnam war. We lived next to Stewart AFB in NY and several of us
had dads who were USAF pilots.
As an aside, I am still writing a history of USAF air demonstration
teams, and making some good progress in this project.
GARY C. MEEKER, Lt Col, USAFR
"julian logan" firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Looking for my uncle
Date: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:00 PM
I came across your F-86 site by typing my name in a search engine.
It came up with "E" FLIGHT FROM CHITOSE by Cliff Winter. In that
article was my name! Except it was really the name of my uncle Julian
Logan for whom I am named.
My father, (Julians brother) and Grandparents (Julians parents)
are all deceased, and I never really got a whole lot of info about
uncle Julian's escapades in the service. Julian was killed on takeoff
in Tuscon AZ in 1956, I was named for him in 958. I have a few of
his things as keepsakes, and spent many hours with my Grandparents
caring for his gravesite in Gadsden, AL,but never really heard a
whole lot about his military service. I recently learned of him
having to bail out I believe in NM in the early 50's, and believe
he had to do the same once in Korea.
I am hoping through your site I might be able to learn more about
my uncle Julian, and possibly be pointed to where I might obtain
some incident reports, and perhaps even contact some the men he
served with. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.
Julian E. Logan
5096 West Pt Rd
Lagrange, GA 30240
Subject: F-86L On Display in Colorado Springs
Date: Thursday, January 06, 2005
Greetings from the Peterson Air and Space Museum to all Sabre Pilots!
In case you didn't know, we have an F-86L, s/n 53-0782 on display
here. It is in the markings of the 322nd Fighter Interceptor Squadron,
Larsen AFB, WA. You can see how she looks at
Just taking a shot at it, but if anyone out there has any remembrances
or photographs that include this particular aircraft we'd love to
hear from you. We are always looking for things that will help us
tell this jet's story. Or if you have any F-86L memorabilia that
you would consider donating, please keep the Pete Museum in mind.
Thanks for your service.
Pete Museum Director
"Morton Mumma III" mortonmIII@msn.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004
Subject: Request for info
One of our members, Alexander Strange, is listed in "Folded Wings"
with a date of death in October 1994. Does anyone have a current
or earlier address for his widow, Cynthia? She was a good friend
of my wife in 1950-51 at Neubiberg Air Base, Germany. At that time
she was married to Lt. George Kintner, killed in an F-84E crash
in Germany in 1951. She and George had a young son, George, Junior,
born at 98th General Hospital in Munich in early 1951. We would
also appreciate any leads to an address for George, Junior.
Morton C. Mumma III
Subject: Trying to find a pilot
Date: Saturday, September 18, 2004
Great site! I am in the process of starting a search for a F-86
pilot who has passed away. His family does not have a lot of information
on him since their house burnt down and they lost all of his records.
Any suggestions and ideas as to how I can go about finding more
about his squadron and experience in Korea would be greatly appreciated.
His name was Howard Asarkof, as of right now I am not even sure
of his rank. He might have been stationed at Hanscom AFB in Maine,
but that is about all I know at this time. Like I said, I am just
starting out on this search.
Once again, thank you in advance and great web site!
Date: 7/24/2004 me
From: HenryLMaroisJr email@example.com
I am a project manager with the Maine Air Museum and we are attempting
to contact F-86D pilots who were in the 49FIS stationed at Dow AFB(Bangor).
We are inviting them to erect a permanent display at our museum
inthe new Military Aviation Wing of the museum. The 49th flew "Dogs"
at Dow and at Hanscom. Later PCS to Griffis AFB, NY and they were
TDY to Loring AFB, ME. Anyone interested please contact Hank Marois
Subject: Gun Blast Panel
I have an F-86 Sabre Jet Gun Blast Panel Display (see attached photo)
available. This panel has been polished and was used as a display.
If any of the members have an interest, let us know. Thanks.
"Julie Mullin" firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Looking for Information about RCAF pilots serving with
American squadron, Korea, 1952-1953
Date: Friday, June 11, 2004
I am looking for information about F/O Brian J. Mullin. Brian Mullin
was in Korea during 1952 and 1953. Although a member of the Royal
Canadian Air Force, he was serving with an American squadron. From
what I was told, only 22 Canadian fighter pilots fought in Korea
including Brian and his brother Charlie. The unit name they were
on exchange with was the 36th or 37th American fighter wing(group?).
Also, they flew versions of the F86 Sabre aircraft. Any information
you may have would be greatly appreciated.
JMG Group Consulting Ltd.
1282 Richardson St.
RJ Sule email@example.com
Subject: Geiger Tigers
Date: Thursday, April 15, 2004
I'm looking for a Gale B. Anstine who was a Geiger Tiger in 1957
at Geiger AFB, Spokane. Gale flew the F-86D.
v Robert J. Sule
Massaro Properties LLC
120 Delta Drive
Pittsburgh, PA 15238
Phone: (412) 963-2800, ext. 278
Fax: (412) 408-0003
Joe Patrick firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: The Artic Gladiators
Date: Friday, April 30, 2004
My father, Joe Patrick Sr. flew F-86's in the early 50's. He flew
with, in Alaska, an aerobatic team called The Artic Gladiaors. I
am trying to get more info on this team and would love to find some
photographs. Can you help me?
The Sabre Jet has always been his favorite ( he retired after getting
checked out in the F-101). He taught me to fly many years ago and
I wanted to suprise him with some good old fighter jet stuff. He
still smells like JP-4
Thank-you very much
Don Maher email@example.com
Subject: Sure could use your help
Date: Monday, May 03, 2004
I am looking for an F-86 pilot named Niel VanGelder. I have searched
all the sites I could but see no mention of his name. As a young
teenager I remember talking with him and a B-17 pilot and listened
intently as they talked with there hands. I have never know this
man to be anything but honest so I never bothered to look.
Any help you may provide would be greatly appreciated.
keith barroncini firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: info on 357th
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2004
To whom it may concern,
I was flipping threw some web pages and found this site. Good job.
I do have a request. My father-in-law was stationed in Morocco during
the early '50's as a mechanic on F-86's. His unit was the 357th
fighter squadron. For a long time, he has be trying to locate a
cap with the squads patch but has been unable to locate one. My
wife and I have been assisting him in this and we too have ran into
If the is someone within your organization who knows how we could
obtain on, please e-mail me at email@example.com .
Thank you and God Bless. Keith Barroncini
Mon, 16 Feb 2004
From: Stanley Parker
Subject: F-86 markings
I am currently building a series of 1/48th scale plastic models
of the day fighter aircraft flown by USAAF/USAF Groups in WW2 and
Korea. I was wondering if you could help me with the F-86 markings
of Gus Grissom and Buzz Aldrin (2 Sabre kills) who flew F-86's in
Korea. Any help andassistance would be appreciated.
Dudley Henriques firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: A pilot needs some information
Date: Sunday, January 11, 2004
My name is Dudley Henriques. I'm a retired professional pilot. I'm
interested in your help if you can, in locating anyone who might
have served in the old 142nd FS Delaware ANG when the squadron was
flying F86A's. I'm particularly interested in locating anyone who
knew Captain James R. Shotwell, a pilot in the 142nd at that time.
Jim was killed in an 86 crash at New Castle in March of 55.
Can you help?
Thank you very much,
Past President 1971-1985
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
Daniel Freedman email@example.com
Subject: Sabre Spares
Date: Tuesday, January 06, 2004
I just visited your most exhiting site.
I direct a UK company called 'Aircraft Parts International Supply
Co. Ltd. that buy & sell parts for early post war jets.We have
a large supply of parts for the Sabre F-86 & seek customers
Any help & info would be great.
DEBOECK Marc Marc.DEBOECK@eurocontrol.int
Subject: Modelling 4th FIG F-86E Sabre
Date: Monday, December 29, 2003
I am looking for information about a particular Sabre for a modelling
project. I recently picked up a long-out-of-print decal sheet to
model F-86 FU-831 "Wham Bam" flown by 1Lt. Martin Bambrick with
the 335th FIS in Summer 1952 at Kimpo, South Korea (1 MiG-15 "kill"
on 04 Sep 1952). According to the instructions' sheet this is a
F-86F-30-NA, but when going through the subject information that
I have available, I am convinced that "Wham Bam" was a F-86E instead.
Although there is a lot of information concerning the F-86, its
involvement in the Korean War, etc., I have so far failed to come
up with any conclusive material as regards this particular aircraft.
Therefore I'd like to ask if you, or any members of the Sabre Pilots
Organisation, would have or could direct me to any information and
/ or photographs of this aircraft & its pilot, as I want to
make an as historically correct as possible model.
Your help in this would be greatly appreciated.
B-1130 Linter, Belgium
Tel +32 11 69 10 78
Fax +32 11 69 25 89
Deborah K. Smith " firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: f-86s in Korea
Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2003
I'm searching for information / memorabilia re: Nellis AFB, F-86s,
and the Korean War for my father who was a flight mechanic in the
USAF during Korea and still regards the F-86 as "his airplane."
My father left the airforce after 10 years of service and has recently
become nostalgic about his service days. I'd like very much to supply
him with memorabilia/books/other information (or even contacts who
may have known him then).
If anyone remembers Keevan Smith from Nellis or Korea during the
War, please let me know. I'm sure he'd like to hear from you. Not
sure what years he was in Korea, but was at Nellis around 1959,
when my sister was born.
Meanwhile, if you have suggestions re: "neat" memorabilia (I'm clueless
here), I'd appreciate this as well.
Thanks for any help you can give,
Dr. Deborah K Smith
Subject: 1st Lt. Albert Randall Hamilton, Jr. - Korea - 36th Squadron
- Ja nuary - June 1953
Date: Friday, December 12, 2003
Please use this email: email@example.com
I'm looking for anyone who knew my father, Albert Hamilton. He was
in the 36th Fighter Bomber Squadron in Korea - January - June 1953.
He was killed in the C 124 crash on June 18.
I found some photos of him at this website:
www.jimmylescalle.com and I found your association's link through
that site, too.
Lt. Escalle's nephew has been helpful to me, but I'd like more information
on my father's personal characteristics, etc. I was 11 months old
when he left for Korea. My mother remarried after his death. I would
very much appreciate any information your members might have.
Ms. Terry Hamilton Mathews
John Clark firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: Colonel William Powell Litton
Date: Thursday, December 11, 2003
I am writing you to see if you might have any information on my
Grandfather, Colonel William (Bill) Powell Litton of Shaw, Mississippi.
He was Wing Commander of the 51st Fighter Wing in Korea. He was
killed on November 2, 1951 on a flight from Itami air base Japan
to Tsuiki air base Japan. I have some information on him but I am
always looking for more. That is how I came across your web site.
How would I go about finding out if any of your members knew him?
Thanks for helping out.
Sampson Bladen Oil Co., Inc.
Jonathan Strickland email@example.com
Subject: Building an F-86 DVD
Date: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:48 AM
I building an F-86 DVD utilizing archive footage and need the help
of the Sabre-Pilots Assocaition. I would like to conduct phone interviews
with Sabre pilots and/or ground crew who were attached to the following
4th FIW (Korea)
51st FIW (Korea)
527th FBS (Landstuhl, Germany)
86th, 36th, 48th FBWs (especially if they took part in the Wheelus
Geunnery Meet, May-June 1954)
Any help in the matter will be appreciated.
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2003
I was assigned to the 6157 FAFSIS squadron in 1956. I read the article
by Capt. Paul Kauttu. I remember him and most of the other names
in the article.
I DID COME IN CONTACT WITH A LOT OF THE PILOTS SINCE I WAS WORKING
IN AIRCRAFT INSTRUMENTS ALONG WITH AIRMAN COLE.
IS THERE ANY INFORMATION AVAILABLE REGARDING THIS UNIT?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5476 SAN LUIS DRIVE
FT. MYERS FL 33903
Jim Perry, MSgt (Ret), USAF
Subject: Request for AF Patches
After retiring from the Air Force, I started collecting group and
squadron patches from Air Force Units. I collect fromWWII to present
day units, so any patches sent to me will be greatly appreciated
and will become an asset to my collection. If you are able to send
me a patch or patches could you also send me a history of the time
you were with the squadron, the type of aircraft you flew and the
primary mission of the squadron. I catalogue each patch I receive
as I have displayed my collection at air shows, VFWs, and American
Legions in the Charleston area. I served at eleven different bases
during my career and only wished I sarted collecting many years
ago as it is getting difficult to find patches.
Jim Perry, Msgt (Ret), USAF
5028 Hidden Forest Lane
North Charleston, SC 29420
Subject: Former German Air Force Sabres
Date: Wednesday, October 08, 2003
For a german publication i am searching for informations and fotos
of two former German Air Force Canadair Sabres.
The first aircraft (c.n.1600, ex N82FS, N186JC) was sold by Tracor
Flight Systems in 1996 to Stephen L. Snyder. It crashed in June
1999. Snyder tragically died in this accident. The aircraft had
the markings of Lt. Warren Efting's Sabre (FU 186). Efting was the
slotman of the "Skyblazer"aerobatic team in 1955/56 at Chaumont
Air Base in France. The plane looked very similar to the AT&T; Sabre
(FU 201) which is excellent performed on flight display by Dale
Snodgrass. On the News, Notes and Comments Page you will find a
message from April 1th, 2002, with a nice drawing by Rusty Andreasen.
It shows Snyder's Sabre, not that one Snodgrass is flying.
The second aircraft (c.n.1675, N80FS) was sold by Tracor Flight
Systems in 1998 to Albert C. Hansen. Since 2001 it is owned by Richard
Mario Warnaar firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: 32nd TFS "Wolfhounds" of the USAF(E)
Date: Sunday, September 07, 2003
I was searching for information about Soesterberg AFFB and saw at
your website an article from "Tex" Henry among other things about
his assigment with the 32nd squadron.
I'm a former Soesterberg AFB K9 handler (RNLAF) and made a website
about the 32nd squadron of the USAF(E) and still seeking for Wolfhounds
related photos. Do you have these and want to share them? Of course
you'll get the credits and a link to your website.
Have a nice day,
William Barcus OCEANWALKER2@aol.com
Subject: Luther Barcus
Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2003
My name is William Barcus. My uncle Luther passed away last year.
He was the sole survivor of a Sabre crash on October 18, 1950. Would
you be kind enough to send me any information about him and his
accident. He was my favorite uncle.
Thank you very much,
3980 4th Street,
Vero Beach, Fl. 32968
"John A. Carter" John.Carter@gci.net
Subject: F-86 Sabre Jet and the 168th Fighter Squadron
Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2003
Can you send me any information about the 168th Fighter Squadron?
I'd also like to have any pictures you may have of aircraft assigned
to the squadron.
I'm a member of the 168th Air Refueling Wing and I'm doing a project
for our Wing. I'm building models of the aircraft our Wing has flown
since it's original inception as the 437th Bombardment Squadron
(Medium) in WWII. These models will be displayed in our Wing's trophy
case once they are all completed.
Any information you can provide me will help me accurately reproduce
the F-86 that we flew in the 50's. Pictures (color especially) will
allow me to accurately reproduce the paint and nose art from one
of the planes assigned to the squadron.
John A. Carter
Maintenance Control & Analysis
168th Logistics Readiness Squadron
Eielson AFB, AK
Clark Acton clark.acton@Artcenter.edu
Date: Thursday, June 19, 2003
My father was a crew chief on the F-86D's and F-47's for the 444th
FIS at Charleston, SC from about 1954-57. I am hoping that one or
more of your members could help me with my attempt to put together
a tribute to my father. About a month ago his Air Force service
came up as a topic in conversation and I got the idea to make a
model of one of the aircraft he was crew chief on. Unfortunately,
he lost all of his photos and unit patch (along with his house!)
in a fire about 12 years ago. I was trying to get the model done
rapidly as a surprise for him, when he finally lost the battle with
cancer last week. I would still like to finish the model, but now
I don't have him to ask any of the detail questions I have. Is it
possible for me to contact your members in some way, to find out
if anyone has any photos or recollection of the planes and markings
from his unit?
I appreciate your taking time to read this, thank you.
Model Shop Supervisor
Art Center College of Design
1700 Lida Street; Pasadena, CA 91103
phone: (626) 396-2284; fax: (626)396-4204
jerry robinson email@example.com
Subject: RE: F-86D's assigned 11th FIS, Duluth, MN Colors &
Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2003
Dear "Saber Folks",
I have been searching the web for the last 6-months...looking for
info, pictures, diagrams, etc. regarding NA F-86D's ASSIGNED to
the 343rd Fighter Interceptor Group, 11th Fighter Interceptor Squadron,
based out of Duluth AFB, Duluth, MN ....(1953 - 1955 )......I need
help in being pointed in the right direction as to books, websites,
photos, drawings, paintings, etc....SHOWING THE COLORS, TAIL MARKINGS,
SQUADRON INSIGNIA, BUZZ NUMBERS, & SER NO.s of representative
F-86D aircraft of the 11th FIS.
I am a retired Honeywell worker, ex-Air Force Vet, age 60....I am
trying to find accurate color, sqdn markings of the 11th FIS's F-86D
Sabres, F-89D Scorpions, and F-102A Dueces....but most important,
those of the F-86D. I am "going broke" purchasing books & magazines,
etc...trying to find this info. My goal is to assemble & paint
an accurate 1/72nd and 1/48th scale model of an 11th FIS F-86D aircraft,
with authentic markings & colors.
If anyone knows which book, publication, etc...which has graphic
depiction of this subject (and not general generic F-86D material),
I would appreciate being pointed in the right direction...I would
be quite willing to pay a "reasonable price" for this data.
Gerald T. Robinson
9223 Clyde Avenue Duluth, MN 55808-1241 Phone: (218) 626-4753
Subject: John King
Date: Friday, May 16, 2003
Dear Sir or Madam,
I am seeking to trace events surrounding the death of Fg Off J E
Y (John) King while flying an F86 Sabre during the Korean War.I
was a very young schoolboy at St Bartholomew's Grammar School in
Newbury, Berkshire, England, when John King was Head Boy (late 1940s).
From school, John went to the Royal Air Force College, Cranwell
for pilot training, and graduated as top cadet and presented with
the Sword of Honour. After service with the RAF, he was posted to
the USA for F86 Sabre conversion before going to Korea. I understand
that he was killed on an F86 mission there.By coincidence, I followed
in some of his footsteps, in the sense that I joined the Royal Air
Force in 1951, did my 'wings' pilot training in Canada, and after
jet conversion was posted to No 26 Squadron based at Oldenburg in
North Germany, flying Vampires. Shortly after arrival there (1953)
I was amazed to see - while reading through the Squadron diary -
a picture of all the 26 pilots some years earlier on a firing practice
session at Westerland airfield on the island of Sylt with John King
to the fore. Some months later, 26 Squadron re-equipped with with
the Canadair-built F86E or Mark 4 as the RAF called it, so I had
nearly two glorious years flying the Sabre before we re-equipped
again with the Hunter Mk4. If anyone who flew in Korea and knew
John King could tell me anything about him and his time with the
USAF I would be most grateful.
Subject: F-86 Pilots (335th FIS - 4th Wing)
Date: Monday, April 21, 2003
I recently attended the F-86 Pilots Reunion as a MIA family member
of Capt T.G. Cope. Is it possible to get a list of F-86 pilots who
were stationed at Kimpo AFB in 1952 that were a part of the 335th
FIS? If so, could you tell me who could provide that information?
I would only want those that are still living. Also, I most assuredly
do appreciate the opportunity to talk to other pilots that flew
in the Korean War around the same time as Capt Cope. We are in the
process of trying to recover dogtags and possibly remains from China.
Thanks for your time and assistance. We are most grateful.
C. G. Cope
Subject: 561st Fighter-Bomber sq
Date: Saturday, February 15, 2003
I am trying to research my father-in-law's, Lt Col (ret) Robert
Hartzog, F-86 squadron from Etain, France (where my wife was born).
From what we gathered, he was with the 561st Fighter Bomber Squadron,
which was either part of the 388th Wing or 49th Ftr Bomber Group
(I believe he started in Clovis, NM). I have done some web-searching
and confirmed those units, but there is not much more out there
that goes into much more detail. Do you have any suggestions or
information? Anything would be greatly appreciated.
Frank J. Kuska
I am doing some research and have hit many dead ends with my following
question. I am hoping maybe some one from your organization could
help me. I am trying to find out who (list of names - team) designed/engineered
the idea and final design of the North American F-86 fighter jet.
If you could shed some light I would appreciate it greatly. Also
if you could point me in a direction that could back up your answer
or where I could do further research.
Thank you & regards,